Ministry at Scale Podcast

Most nonprofits are using AI — but only 7% are seeing real strategic benefit from it. Nathan Chappell, Chief AI Officer at Virtuous and founder of Fundraising AI, has spent years studying what separates the organizations that thrive with AI from those that stall. In this episode, he shares the …

What if the content your ministry already has — sitting untouched on a shelf — could reach more people, deepen engagement, and activate brand-new donors, all through a channel with a 98% open rate? In this DMC 2026 session, Aaron Dolton of Powered by Text shares a real-world case study with Jack …

Most Christians know that they believe — but far fewer can clearly articulate why. Matt Ward, founder and CEO of BeliefTrack, built a free web-based platform to change that — and what started as a personal faith inventory has grown into a powerful discipleship and leadership vetting tool for …

What does a hotel key card have to do with 400,000 people hearing the gospel? Don Barger, Director of Innovation and Artificial Intelligence at the International Mission Board (IMB), shares the unexpected story of how one small, tangible idea helped one of the world's largest missions organizations …

95% of AI projects are failing — and your ministry can't afford to be part of that statistic. Gregory Richardson, founder of Six Levers Consulting and a 35-year veteran of cybersecurity and technology leadership, brings a rare combination of deep tech expertise and unashamed Christian faith to one …

Your ministry is stretched thin, your data is scattered across disconnected tools, and your donor acquisition budget may be reaching the wrong people. In this session from the Digital Ministry Conference, Nathan Hill of AVID walks through a real-world case study showing how Bible League Canada …

What if your ministry could share the gospel with someone in a closed country at 2 a.m. — in their heart language — without a single missionary present? Jake Carlson, founder of The Apologist Project, is already doing it. In this session from the Digital Ministry Conference 2026, Jake shares how …

Most ministries don’t have a technology problem — they have a strategy problem. Toby Weiss, Co-Founder and CEO of Rooted Software, spent 14 years as the Global CIO of Jews for Jesus before launching a company with one purpose: helping ministries stop patchworking technology together and start …

What does it look like to carry your faith into one of the most skeptical environments on earth—and actually lead a movement there? Rich Robison is an Engineering Manager at a major big tech company, and he didn't choose to work there. God closed every other door until he finally listened. In this …

In this episode of Ministry at Scale, host Chad Williams interviews Yvonne Carlson, the Chief Technology Officer at Global Media Outreach (GMO) and co-director of the Missional AI Conference. Together, they explore the intersection of technology, faith, and the transformative potential of AI in …

Featuring Kendell Stellfox, Executive Director of Partnerships with Kerux Group Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this insightful session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Kendell Stellfox—Executive Director of Partnerships at The Kerux Group—challenges ministry …

Featuring Kenny Jahng, Founder of AI for Church Leaders Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this practical and fast-paced session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Kenny Jahng—AI educator and founder of AI for Church Leaders—demystifies artificial intelligence for …

Featuring Chase Cappo, Director of Enterprise AI Division, and Brianne Shaw, Senior Product Marketing Manager, with Gloo AI Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this inspiring and practical session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Brianne Shaw and Chase Cappo from …

Featuring Josh Kashorek, Marketing Director at Five Q Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this insightful session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Josh Kashorek—Director of Marketing at Five Q—invites ministry marketers into the world of unified data strategy. Using …

Featuring John Dyer, Dallas Theological Seminary Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In a thought-provoking session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, John Dyer—programmer, theologian, and Vice President at Dallas Theological Seminary—explores the complex intersection of …

Featuring Daniel Jenkins, President, and Kristin Sukraw, Chief Storytelling Officer at StoryFind Films Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this engaging session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Daniel and Kristin explore the intersection of storytelling and data, …

Featuring Sarah Sharp and Mike Costlow, Truth for Life Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. When Truth For Life wanted to turn Alistair Begg’s two-year devotional series into an audio experience, they faced a challenge: time constraints made it impossible for Alistair to voice …

Featuring Chris Martin, Director of Content, Moody Global Media Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this compelling session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Chris Martin—veteran digital strategist and content leader at Moody Global Media—pulls back the curtain on how …

Featuring Adam Graber, Christianity Tomorrow & Co-Host of Device & Virtue Podcast Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. How do we saturate the digital world with Scripture? In this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Adam Graber unpacks findings from groundbreaking …

Dave Raley of Imago Consulting works with nonprofit and business leaders to help them grow revenue profitably. His mission is to help nonprofits and businesses identify and understand opportunities, develop new strategies, and launch new products and initiatives. In this episode of The Ministry of …

Josh Kashorek is the Marketing Director at Five Q, a digital marketing agency focused on helping ministries reach more people online. With over 15 years of experience in digital strategy, analytics, and marketing, Josh brings valuable expertise to this topic.  In this episode, Josh shares insights …

Kedron Rhodes, Director of Digital Experiences at Crowe LLP, has over 25 years of expertise in optimizing customer journeys. In this insightful episode, he shares a powerful framework for enhancing donor relationships through empathetic experiences. Here are some key topics covered:  Why …

Josh Kashorek is the Director of Marketing at Five Q, a platform helping organizations leverage no-code tools and automation. His creative mindset and technical skills converge in an insightful perspective on how ministries can steward AI for greater impact. In this thought-provoking episode, Josh …

Josh Burnett is the founder of Church.tech, an AI-powered platform helping churches streamline operations and engage people more effectively. Drawing from his background in ministry and entrepreneurship, Josh brings a unique perspective on leveraging technology for greater kingdom impact. In this …

Dave Raley is the founder of Imago Consulting, helping organizations innovate to grow their impact. He draws from over a decade of experience leading a digital team at a major nonprofit agency. Dave is also the author of the Weekly Wave Report on innovation trends and co-host of the Purpose and …

Corey Alderin is the founder of Sermon Shots, a platform that helps churches transform their full sermons into popular short-form video content for Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts. In this hands-on workshop, Corey shares his expertise on leveraging AI to create …

Arnie Cole is a social scientist and researcher at Back to the Bible, who has studied the spiritual lives of over 1.5 million people over the past 20 years. In this insightful episode, he challenges ministries to truly understand the spiritual state of the people they serve in order to help move …

Andrew Rogers is the co-founder of BibleChat.ai, an innovative app that uses AI to help people engage more deeply with the Bible. With over 75,000 downloads and users in 188 countries, BibleChat has been pioneering the use of artificial intelligence for Christian ministry. In this insightful …

Jeff Kliewer is the founder of ViewSpark. He has worked in fundraising for over 30 years and brings much experience to this episode. Jeff has taken his experience with fundraising and, through ViewSpark, has put a powerful way to connect with your donors right at your fingertips. In this episode, …

During this talk given at the Digital Ministry Conference in 2022, Aly Hammond & Chip Johnston from Virtuous provide 8 responsive mindsets that ministries and organizations can utilize to solve some of the big problems that many non profits are facing today. Personal For All How do we treat all …

Anthony Elliot is a senior software developer at Five Q. On today’s episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, Anthony joins Chad to talk about conversion tracking and why it’s so important. For many people unfamiliar with conversion tracking, there’s one big question: what are conversions? As …

In this session from the Digital Ministry Conference, Pete Marra, the Vice President of Innovation at the Colson Center discusses how to get started with risk mitigation for your ministry.  Your Ministry is Like the Three Little Pigs In the story of the three little pigs, each pig picked different …

John Cobb is the Vice President at Ligonier ministries. He started looking into Web3, Blockchain and the Metaverse simply as a way to understand what they are and how they could impact ministries going forward. What he found is that there are three main buckets he thinks ministries should be …

Marketing Communications can be a critical part of your ministry. It ensures your message is presented effectively, all of your resources are consistent so you can stand out in a sea of other organizations and that your materials are engaging your audience. In this episode we speak with Cheryl …

Shae Bynes is the Chief Fire Igniter and founder of the Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur movement. On this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Chad sits down with Shae to talk about what a kingdom culture looks like and how to focus on using a kingdom approach to business. In 2009, God told Shae …

During his time at Bott Radio Network, the director of marketing Sam Rinearson came to speak at the Digital Ministry Conference in 2022. He taught how to personalize your user's experience in a way to build connection and to increase your number of divine appointments every day. Personalization is …

Ken Coleman is America’s Career Coach, the #1 national bestselling author of  The Proximity Principle and  From Paycheck to Purpose, and host of  The Ken Coleman Show. Ken helps people discover what they were born to do and provides practical steps to make their dream job a reality. During this …

Chris Martin is the content marketing editor at Moody Publishers. From his talk at the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference, Chris shares some practical tips for maximizing your reach using social media. Just a few years ago, it wasn’t uncommon to reach a high percentage of your followers on social …

Tabitha Kapic is the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers center. In this talk from the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference in Nashville, she talks about design thinking and how teams can be better at innovation. Be the solution What if teams started asking the question "What do people need?" rather …

On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk given by Chad Williams from the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference held in Nashville. Chad is the founder and CEO of Five Q and gave this talk on the opening night of the conference based on the theme of the conference: Embrace the …

Heather Heuman got her start in the digital marketing space 22 years ago. After working as a special education teacher, she switched career paths and began work at a digital marketing firm. After beginning a business of her own, she began to grow that business using her digital marketing experience …

For several years, Rick Boxx worked as a bank executive. After he was called to follow the Lord, his business practices began to change for the better. One instance of this was when he bid on a foreclosed house before finding out it was going to be worth much less than he initially thought. He was …

On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk from Josh Kashorek of 5Q. Josh gave this talk at the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared about the impact that metrics can have in ministry. If we look at the story of when Jesus fed 5,000 people with only 5 loaves of bread 2 …

Learn, Grow, Go. This is TJ Tison’s motto when it comes to helping faith-based organizations develop a culture of learning.    Growing up, she always loved learning and has since found a way to help institute learning management systems for nonprofit organizations. To do this, TJ and her team use …

On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference from Ben Martin of 5Q. He shares about the Google Ads grant for nonprofits and how ministries can use this to increase engagement and clicks to their website. The Google ads grant gives the …

On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast we hear from Natchi Lazarus. Natchi is the co-founder and chief consultant of Open Minds Agency and works with churches and nonprofits, teaching them how to use social media to grow their impact. Many years ago, Natchi had a life-changing experience …

Many people have good intentions when it comes to downloading and consuming the content that you provide, but many times they never get around to it. In this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference, Laura Hatcher explains how she and her team at Love Worth …

In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. Jan-Willem Bosman explains the strategy of Jesus.net. Through the use of personalization, their goal is lead people to the center of the Gospel and help them grow in their spiritual journey. In the …

In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. This session is from Mike Sukraw, the owner of Reliant Studios in Lincoln, Nebraska. Mike shares about the impact of video storytelling and tips for how you can find great interviewees that meet the goals of …

This episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast features a talk from Bobby Lewis from Love Worth Finding Ministries. He shares about the process of shifting to a legacy ministry and how he and his team shifted the way they provide content. In 2005, Love Worth Finding ministries became a legacy …

In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. Brent Wilson, with Five Q, explains the importance of website speed and performance and how it can improve the online experience for your customers and users.  According to Brent, website performance is …

In this episode, we hear from Brad Davies of Salem Cultivate. Brad gave this talk at our 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared about how AB testing can significantly increase conversion rates, even as much as 1,000%. To start with an example of what AB testing is, read each piece of copy and …

In this episode, we hear from Jason Thacker of the ERLC (Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission). Jason gave this talk at our 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared the importance of prioritizing ethics over engagement. The digital age has offered much innovation, development, and promises …

In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. This session is from Tabitha Kapic, the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers Center. Tabitha shares with us practical ways to bring innovation into your ministry.  Hasn’t Everything Been Done? How Can I …

Episode 47 is a special Digital Ministry Conference episode, where we share some of the top sessions from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. In this session, we hear from Misty Phillip, Founder of Spark Media. Podcasting is a powerful way to share your knowledge and connect with new audiences, …

In this episode, we speak with Mike Henry Sr, the founder of Follower of One. Mike shares his story of God’s faithfulness throughout the years, even when Mike didn’t realize it, and how that lead him to start Follower of One, with the goal of helping every Christian view their job as a mission …

This is a special episode of the ministry at scale podcast, where we highlight some of the best sessions from the Digital Ministry Conference. In this session, Natchi Lazarus, co-founder of Open Minds Agency, shares how to cut through the clutter in a noisy social media space.  Why Focus on Social …

In this special Digital Ministry Conference episode, you'll hear Chad's keynote speech entitled building a legacy. Chad discusses why it's important to realize that legacies are not just something that happen when you die, they are built by consistent intentional living every day. Listen to the …

In episode 43 we speak with Jim and Martha Brangenberg, the founders of iwork4Him ministries. Their story begins as 13-year-olds, they both attended the same youth conference and committed their lives to Christian ministry, even though they hadn’t met each other yet. While they maintained their …

In Episode 42 we speak with our very own Ben Martin. Ben is the Senior Digital Strategist at Five Q. He got his start in radio, then has transitioned to internet marketing, With experience ranging from international ministries, schools, and broadcast, Ben brings a ton of experience in digital …

In episode 41 we speak with Adrian Reid, the founder of Victory Gardens of the Caribbean. Adrian is an entrepreneur at heart and has started several ministries. Adrian has long had a passion both for entrepreneurship and for the church. For a long time, he wondered if the two passions were …

In episode 40 we speak with Josh Wilson, who is a serial entrepreneur, the founder of Kingdom Syndicate, The Deal Scout Podcast, and many other ventures. Josh has a ton of experience in scaling businesses. Josh shares with us his journey of going from a roofer in his family business to an investor …

In episode 39 we spoke with Eric Brown, author of the book Creatives Lead. The idea for this book came from his own personal experience as he shifted from a doer and implementer to a leadership role he realized how different those skill sets are. In his time in leadership positions he became …

In episode 38 we speak with Dr. Jens Unger, the Global Lead of Impact Week, an organization that uses design thinking to build entrepreneurship opportunities within developing countries.  Impact Week started in partnership between a Church in Germany and universities in Kenya. The professors in …

In Episode 37 we speak with Gabe Handy, the Director of Digital Strategy at the Jesus Film Project. Gabe has worked with the Jesus Film Project for nearly 15 years. He started with a computer science degree and jumped into the workforce right out of college, but eventually, he felt a calling to …

In Episode 36 we speak with Tabitha Kapic, the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers Center. Tabitha, shares how she’s seen God’s guidance in her career path that seems to be a winding path, from a lab in Chicago, through Insurance in Florida and even working in an embassy in London, all the way …

In Episode 35 we speak with Tessie Devore, the President of the Bible Media Group, an organization who provides Gospel content in nearly 1,000 languages worldwide through collaboration with over 170 ministries. Tessie shares with us how collaboration is critical among kingdom minded organizations, …

In episode 34 we spoke with Nathan Johnson, the Director of Online Marketing for Turning Point with David Jeremiah. Nathan grew up listening to David Jeremiah as a kid, and actually has the Joseph series on cassette tape, so his passion for the ministry runs deep personally. When he got to college …

In episode 33 we speak with Denise Godwin, President of International Media Ministries. Denise and her husband always thought missions would be part of their lives, but never expected to be missionaries full time. However, God’s plans sometimes differ from ours, and Denise and her husband were …

In episode 32 we spoke with Shea Houdmann, the Founder and CEO of Got Questions Ministries. Got Questions is an apologetics ministry that has answered over 650,000 questions about the Bible since they started in the early 2000’s. It is one of the highest trafficked faith based websites. Shea, …

In episode 31 we speak with Jan-Willem Bosman, the Executive Director of Jesus.Net, and international outreach ministry that shares the Gospel with millions of people around the world through a network of websites and other digital media. Jan started out as an electronics engineer for telecom …

Gordon Marcy has been in the broadcast radio industry since he was 17, he specialized in Christian radio starting in 1985 and shifted to a focus on podcasting in recent years, he has developed the Glorystone App, which is the first on demand platform for Christian Podcasting.  How did you get into …

In this episode we speak with Gabe Cooper, CEO of Virtuous Software, Author of “Responsive Fundraising” and a leader in the responsive nonprofit movement.   How Did you Become Passionate About Technology & Generosity? Gabe started out as a software developer, and is a product person at the …

In this episode we get a chance to speak with Mike Shrage, the President of Good News Productions. Mike and his wife were missionaries in Kenya for 20 years, which gave them a deep appreciation for other cultures, and in particular, Mike developed a strong awareness that media created in America …

In this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast we speak with Clyde Taber, from Visual Story Network and Jon Ralls from Kavanah Media and the Christian Media Marketing Podcast. They discuss why digital media is a powerful tool for fulfilling the great commission and how they are leveraging it to …

In episode 25 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we speak with Justin Wise, Co-Founder of The Different Company. Justin speaks with us on a wide variety of topics from social media, how to cut through the digital clutter and get your organization noticed and so much more. Be sure to listen to the …

In Episode 24 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we get to speak with Jonathan Pitts, who is a chief strategist at Dunham & Company, Co-founder of For Girls Like You, Author, and Pastor. Jonathan shares with us why it’s important to invest in digital, how to bring new ideas into ministries, and …

In episode 23 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we speak with Mike McDonald, Chief Global Focus Officer, at the Bible Project. Mike has a fantastic story, he started with owning and operating restaurants and felt called into serving the Church in some capacity, but wasn’t raised in the church and …

Mitch Matthews is an entrepreneur, keynote speaker, success coach, and the host of the Dream. Think. Do. Podcast. In episode 22 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Mitch was gracious enough to share with us a bit about his story, and a lot of wisdom he’s picked up about finding your passion and being …

In Episode 21 of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we spoke with Misty Phillip, the Founder of Spark Media and Spark Collective. The Spark Collective is a podcast training community that provides educational resources on how to grow your podcast – with information starting with the fundamentals all …

On March 10th, we met with Rob Wassel, the Founder and Executive Director of Seeds Global Innovation Lab, who taught us about the concept of “design thinking” as it relates to innovation for ministries. Be sure to listen to the full episode above to learn how small organizations can make a big …

On February 24, we talked with Chris Martin, the Content Marketing Editor at Moody Publishers, on the Ministry At Scale Podcast. Chris gave us his best tips and tricks for ministries to make an impact with social media – plus his recipe for success on posts that work. Making not-books out of books …

For our fifteenth episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we chatted with Catherine Gates, Executive Director of Women in the Marketplace and author of Confidence Cornerstone: A Woman’s Guide to Fearless Leadership. Catherine shared what led her to write her book, changing the cultural …

In Episode 14 of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we talked with Jon Hirst, Director of Program Innovation at SIL International. Jon taught us how his organization goes about promoting innovation in the midst of constraints, knowing when to tweak a process, and trends ministries should be aware of in …

For Episode 13 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we interviewed Dave Wright, Vice President of Communications and Brand Strategy at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Dave walked us through his strategy for creating consistent, beautiful branding and encouraging creativity within his team. …

On Episode 12 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we talked with Kenny Jahng, founder of Big Click, curator of the Church Communications Facebook Group, and author of Instagram Posts that Work. Kenny shared his wisdom on improving churches’ digital communications, and how innovation fits into the …

On Episode 11 of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we talked with Jason Thacker, Chair of Research and Technology at the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC). Jason brought valuable insights to the relationship between ministries and big tech companies – especially helping us remember the …

On our latest episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we met with Dan Darling, author and Senior VP at National Religious Broadcasters (NRB). Dan walked us through what it means to do ministry in the digital space, from Christian leadership to conscious communication. Who is Dan Darling? Dan …

On our latest episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, we met with Tony Valdes the founder of Be Church Conference. Tony shared his tips on creating buzz around upcoming events from branding and advertising, to audience engagement and commitment. Who is Tony Valdes? Tony Valdes is the founder of …

Last week on the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Chad Williams interviewed Doug Weiss, the founder of Ministry MarCom. Doug shared his best advice for developing a ministry “Action Plan”, measuring success, and trying new forms of content in the ever-changing nonprofit landscape. Who is Doug Weiss? Doug …

This week on the Ministry at Scale Podcast, our CEO, Chad Williams interviewed John Schwartz, the Digital Communications Manager at Truth for Life. John walked us through his wide experience in the digital space and told us about some of the most important digital trends for nonprofits — and how to …